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Feb 4
My Thoughts On Stowe Boyd's Blog Conversational Index
Stowe, very novel idea.  I agree that there ought to be some way whereby blog search engines measure much more than just the number of links to a given blog.  And I agree that the amount of conversation (comments, trackbacks) going on at a blog relative to its number of posts is an important characteristic.  Your post may lead to lots of new forms of measuring blogs.

But I think we need to take into account a few other things.  I'd love to get some feedback from you and anyone else.  Just some half-baked thoughts to fuel the conversation.

1. Comment quality varies.  Some blog posts have a long line of very short, congratulatory (or derogatory, or spam) comments, for example, while others might have just a few really thoughtful comments.  I'm not sure how to really measure the *quality* of a comment, but I think there's more to it than saying, "Well, Blog X has twice as many comments per post on it as Blog Blog Y does, so Blog X is getting more conversation."

2. Many blogs start out conversation-poor and gradually pick up speed as they gain a consistent following.  What if one could see if Blog X's CI (conversational index) was increasing at a faster rate than Blog Y's?  Perhaps that in itself would be an interesting statistic: the daily rate of increase or decrease in the CI over a given period of time.  (Ten points for anyone who gives this a sexy name.)  So, say on January 1st I have 50 posts, 20 comments and 5 trackbacks at my widget blog: CI = 2.  If by January 11th I have 60 posts, 40 comments and 20 trackbacks, my CI = 1.  (I like Don Dodge's higher-is-better idea - maybe we ought to reverse the formula.)  So over 10 days, my CI has "doubled" (halved).  I'm getting twice as much "conversation" as I was ten days ago.  If my friend's blog on widgets has gone from 20/20/0 to 40/20/0 in those ten days, his CI has *decreased* from 1 to 2.  So someone searching the web for blogs about widgets could readily see that mine has improved in terms of conversation relative to my friend's.  Of course, there could be a default time period for the calculation of this simple growth/stagnation metric - say, one month - but the search tool should allow the user to specify a different time period, like one year or one week.

3. What about the author's comments at her own blog, or trackbacks she sends back to her older entries?  Should those count the same?

4. Could this statistic be meshed with a particular individual's CI?  That is, if I have five blogs, could we somehow calculate my average CI (using the totals from all of my blogs)?

5. Is a comment always equal to a trackback?  Or are trackbacks more important because they are more rare or indicate a foreign post, which typically includes more info than a comment?  (What if I had posted this information at your blog instead of mine, for example?)

6. What about the number of commenters on or trackbackers to a blog?  For example, sometimes we see blogs with hundreds of comments from just a very few faithful, while other blogs have fewer comments, but from a larger number of people.  So maybe the formula should be expanded to reflect the number of commenters/trackbackers, like so:
CI = P / [(C + T) / U].  (P = posts, C = comments, T = trackbacks, U = unique commenters and trackbackers.  Example:

Blog A:
P = 50
C = 20 including author's comments
T = 5 including author's trackbacks
U = 5 including author

CI = 50 / [(20 + 5) / 5] = 50 / 5 = 10.

Blog B:
P = 50
C = 20 including author's comments
T = 5 including author's trackbacks
U = 25 including author

CI = 50 / [(20 + 5) / 25] = 50 / 1 = 50.

Blog A: CI = 10.
Blog B: CI = 50.

Although both blogs have the exact same number of posts, comments and trackbacks, Blog B's conversational index is much higher because it has enjoyed conversational input from a much higher number of people.

7. My head hurts.  I feel like a geek.

Anyway, I hope this gets some more thoughts flowing.  Maybe someone can go all mathematical and sabermetricky on this.  (Somewhere out there is a diehard baseball fan waiting to morph into a bona fide blog statistician!)  I look forward to hearing what you have to say about this.

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I'm no statistician, but one of the ways that I assign value to a blog is by seeing who commented. I don't mean to be elitist, but... (pregnant pause),
WHO responds is a very good indicator as to the impact or effectiveness of the blogger's posts.

Good point. That's why I think it ought to harder to fake a person's identity when leaving blog comments and easier to see exactly who is commenting (unless they choose to remain anonymous or use an alias).

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I am having trouble getting responses to my blogsite, so I am now focusing on providing news and information about baseball, as well as other useful things. I have a strong feeling that a similiarly sounding name will be the next rave(instead of blog maybe it will be blogue). Who knows?

Mark, thanks for the comment. I agree that the word "blog" probably won't be a popular term or perhaps won't carry the same meanings in five or ten years that it does today.

I love baseball! Thanks for telling me about your blog. Feel free to look through this site for tips that can help you build traffic to your site. Two of my favorite blog tips resources are Problogger.net and Micropersuasion.com - both have authors who know all about blogging.

No doubt Easton you are a geek...but that isn't always a bad thing. What if, by choice you have comments disabled on a blog and use it more as an article site. Your CI would be way off even though you were a blog...just something else to consider.

Brandon Hopkins

Good thought, Brandon. Some of the most popular blogs do not allow comments - Seth Godin's blog, for example. He relies on trackbacks instead. And others do not even allow trackbacks. Yet people still may talk about them. So they are still good conversation generators.

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